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Old 03-21-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

Typically, a 4500 tank will earn you 5 shots per cunic inch over that of a 3000 psi tank's cubic inch. Stole this from the web:

Nitro Tanks
Tank Size------Shots--------TankSize---------Shots
48cu 3000psi----480------48cu 4500psi---------720
68cu 3000psi----680------68cu 4500psi--------1020
88cu 3000psi----880------88cu 4500psi--------1320
96cu 3000psi----960------96cu 4500psi--------1440
110cu 3000psi---1100----110cu 4500psi--------1650
114cu 3000psi---1140----114cu 4500psi--------1710

There are many variables that can make these numbers go up or down, this is just a general "rule of thumb".

As already pointed out, you may not always be able to get a 4500psi fill. But you can still fill the 4500 tanks to 3000 psi. There is not that much of a price differance, I would pay to get the option.

Also, seeing how you are fairly new, make sure it's a "High pressure" or "Variable", don't get a "low pressure". Aslo be aware of the Hydro. Some tanks are only a three year Hydro, while others are a five year hydro. Also get yourself a tank cover to protect from dents, dings and scratches. Some places won't re-hydro your tank if it looks to be in rough shape.

I would reccomend shopping here: Nitrogen Systems at ActionVillage.com : Paintball

They have good pricing and free shiping. I wish I would have read your "vest" thread earlier, I would have tried to talk you into the UTG vest instead, no extra $ for the tank pouch, and it does not "wobble", it is very well secured. But I guess it's too late because I see that you have already put in your order. Maybe call and cancel the order after you do some homework on the UTG vest?

I am going to upload some pics a little later to try and help you out....

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Old 03-21-2008, 07:48 PM
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

Okay, here are the pics as promised. First, the tank size comparison pics:



From left to right: 88ci HPA, 45ci HPA, 20oz CO2, & a 9oz CO2



If you have any of these size tanks at home it will help you judge the "upgrade" size you are considering...

Next the vest pics:

This is my ACU pattern UTG vest, pictured with a 48ci



And here is a mini tutorial of how well it holds a tank, pictured using 88ci:



^the 88ci tank w/cover^



^ The tank pouch wide open^



^the tank centered in the pouch^



^the left flap closed^



^the bottom strap closed^



^the final flap (right flap) closed secures it all in^



^the optional stretch cover around the tank pouch^
(this optional cover can be tucked behind the tank pouch if desired)



^tank secured, loaded with 4 160 rd. pods^



^Vest hung off of one nail in wall from the drag handle, close up of how^
^well it bears all the weight without sag or wobble^



^Last pic to prove my point, this is the 88ci, with 4 pods (empty)^
^hung upside down, sorry for the shaky pic, I am holding the from^
^the front of the vest with my left hand, while taking picture with the right^

If for some reason you didn't want the tank pouch at some point, it is fully removable and other things can be added in it's place. (remember this pouch comes free/standard with the vest)

Hope this helps you make a better choice
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

well, i managed to get an 88/4500 pure energy tank with a kingman slidecheck remote coil for $200 shipped to canada so i think i got a decent deal... plus, the tank pouch for the opsgear vest says 88 at the largest, so hopefully the tight fit will stop the bouncing...
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

p.s. thanks for all the awesome info infidel! rep 4 u!
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

No problem, anytime. And yes, you did get a good deal on the tank/remote combo for $200 shipped, especially to Canada. I just hope you are satisfied with the vest.
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

like i said in the vest thread, if the tank bounces too much, ill modify the pouch to fit tighter, but by the look of it, it will be a tight squeeze to get in the pouch.. we'll see... god bless the sewing machine if it doesnt... do you know if something like the smartparts in tank regulator would be worth it in my application?
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

If it does bounce around, it's a good idea to sew some straps to the side and strap them on in a way that it would force the tank to stay up against the body. That's what I did with a very old vest of mine.

And yes, you got a good deal on the tank and remote hose. Though, do beware of customs and duty taxes you'll have to pay when you get your package. Hope you went with USPS and not UPS.
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

i did go with usps... ive had way too many nightmares with ups... bunch a crooks...

with a value of ~170 i dont expect much customs via usps
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

I have a 48/3k and a 72/3k, and I get around 1000 with the 48. Also, keep in mind I'm now using a speedball marker which operates at a lower pressure, so I can get more out of the same size tank.
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Re: How many shots do you get out of a HPA tank?

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well, i managed to get an 88/4500 pure energy tank with a kingman slidecheck remote coil for $200 shipped to canada so i think i got a decent deal... plus, the tank pouch for the opsgear vest says 88 at the largest, so hopefully the tight fit will stop the bouncing...

If you bought your tank outside of Canada MAKE SURE YOUR TANK IS TC STAMPED

Otherwise you just wasted a lot of money....

TC Stamp is the requriement for Pressure Vessels in Canada.
And if your lucky enough to get it past customs, it wont matter much, because no one will allow you to fill it.
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