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Old 02-26-2007, 05:16 PM
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OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

This seems to be a reoccurring theme with the new ratchet that is in the X7 Cyclone. This thread will cover a mod that will help to prevent, or deter this from occurring.

The cyclone has seen several different ratchets spawned from Tippmanns attempt to fix the issue of ratchet failure, a failure that typically happens while you're on the field in the heat of a fire fight. Some of you may be asking why the ratchet wears out so quickly. A simple look into the parts thats used in association with it, and a general knowledge of mechanics will quickly pinpoint the problem.

The main reason for ratchet failure is due to the poor design of the Feeder Axle.



Had Tippmann put as much Research & Developement into this part as they had the rest of marker, then they would have redesigned the Feeder Axle to look similiar to this:



The teeth on the unmodified Feeder Axle are quite abrupt and offer very little smooth action, which leads to a chopping effect on the ratchet. To solve this, there are several ways to modify your Feeder Axle so it cycles smoother and with less choppiness.

I personally took a metal hand file and filed down the offending edges, and then went back with an emery board to smooth it down. Others have used dremels and other similiar rotary tools to accomplish this same end product.

Here's one version using a Dremel: DIY: Ratchet Mod.

I certainly hope that this has helped explain why the ratchet breaks so easily, and steps to help prevent it. For those who wish to forgo this mod all together, there are other more costly options available. There are currently 3 aluminum ratchets available on market. They are as follows:

Tech T Vortex Mod
JCS Jet Click
Trinity Ratchet System


Further tips on how to replace the Ratchet can be found here: How to: Replace the stock Ratchet.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

Just as a FYI, I have been using a modified Feeder Axle for almost 2 years now, and the ratchets in both my A-5's and X7 still look brand new. One A-5 has seen atleast 30 cases threw it, the other about 15, and my X7 about 8.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

that is too cool!!!!!!´to prevent this i just got a vortex and a lightning rod...(still don´t have my X7... she has´n arrived yet...) but i´m prepared!
but that is a great mod bro!!!! rep4u
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

I had sent the Tippmann R&D Department an email on this, and today I received this response:

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The R&D dept. have tried a lot of different things that no one else would come up with. It comes down to the material, soft enough for the cyclone to function properly without breaking paint. Which keeps it from using a harder material. The design they came up with should be the best for its task.



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2955 Adams Center Rd.
Ft, Wayne IN. 46803

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1-260-749-6022


Should be the best huh? Apparently its not, because the ratchet is breaking even faster now.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

just did this mod ... thanks for the tip.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

Great mod and love the pics. Can't get enough how tos with pics IMO.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

Great thread, only one problem for me that is that i discovered this to late on to my second ratchet, will modify after i have posted this
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

Ok so Invictus you've gone through alot of paint using this Modified feeder Axel? so it does truly work, I understand exactly what you mean how Tippmann designed it poorly, but I just wanted some "For Sure" evidence before I go hackin at my Cyclone parts =D im definetly doing this tho its allmost sad tippmann didnt see this and fix it.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

Or you can always spend the $30 for the Vortex mod and not have to worry about it ever wearing out; cuz it's made of aluminum.
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Re: OMG, My Ratchet Broke!!

True, so many things I need for my X7, this is more important tho, so good chance ill buy the whole setup.
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