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Old 11-15-2009, 01:03 PM
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How are those fake EOTech sights?

I've seen a number of guns mounting those fake EOTech red dots, and was wondering how well they work? I know it's pretty hard to mess up a red dot (Is the dot there? Yes? Can I move it a little? Yes? OK, it's good.), but do they have any crippling faults, like drinking batteries or discombobulating the first time they get shot?
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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

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I asked there, not much info...
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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

This is something I'd like to know about too. Been considering getting an EOTech 551 myself. EB Airsoft says that these "aren't like other Chinese knockoffs, are high quality." But other products I've bought from them have fallen apart, so I really don't trust their advertising (or their customer support, for that matter).

I'm especially worried if these use cheap turrets like other sights, over-adjusting for windage or elevation may break the turrets and cause the sights to stop responding. It's how my Tasco red-dot ended up dying.
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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

After having owned a couple of "dot" sights I( found one common problem with all of them.
The suffer from terrible parrallax.
Unless you eye is not EXACTLY lined up with the center of the sight, they will be off.
Also, many aren't brite enuf to be seen in brite sunlite.
As well, many do 'eat' batteries.

I have found the ghost ring sight to be much more useful, just as effective, don't require batteries, more durable, far cheaper as well as still being functional after taking a hit.
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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

I don't know for sure if it can be called 'parallax' (Perhaps mistakenly, I always assumed that referred primarily to the eye-relief problem of a magnified scope) ... but I do agree with Holliwood. In almost every red-dot scope I've owned, the dot has a tendency to "wander" depending on your viewing angle. Firing while "out of parallax," so to speak, could possibly result in missed shots.

This problem is easily corrected for by having a fixed iron sight in front of your red-dot, and firing only as the electronic sight overlaps your front sight (I believe this is referred to as "co-witnessing"). A quick exercise in Google-fu shows me this can easily be done with an EOTech - an image is provided below.


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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

In my opinion it doesn't really matter if they function that well because how often do you really use the site on your gun? Some people may say they use them all the time, but I don't see how. Paintballs lack the accuracy of a true firearm so they don't have ball on ball precision. So even if you adjusted the site it's only going to give you a vague idea of where the ball is going to go. I say stick with the eotech as something that is there for "looks", because majoriy of the time you'll just end up shooting down the side of your marker...

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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

Mines just there for looks. I got mine from a chinese dealer off ebay, it has been shot directly in the screen a couple of times and is still in good condition. I don't use mine for sighting, it's just for looks in my opinion. It's been said before, paintballs are not as accurate as bullets so a cheap lookie-likey is just as good.
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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

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In my opinion it doesn't really matter if they function that well because how often do you really use the site on your gun? Some people may say they use them all the time, but I don't see how. Paintballs lack the accuracy of a true firearm so they don't have ball on ball precision. So even if you adjusted the site it's only going to give you a vague idea of where the ball is going to go. I say stick with the eotech as something that is there for "looks", because majoriy of the time you'll just end up shooting down the side of your marker...

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This is true, Wingman. I have an M-16 carry handle on a few of my loadouts, but I've actually wrenched out the cheap plastic peep sights with a pair of needlenose pliers so I can sight using the "trench" in the carry handle. I understand some shotguns use a similar mechanism. My marker will never be a nail-driver, but it's accurate enough for the fighting I tend to do.

Unlike most red-dots, The EOTech benefits from a very wide field of view and has a much larger sighting reticle that benefits a paintball player more than anything that depends on a greater deal of precision.

Also, just remembering a conversation I had last night (concerning cheap Tasco sights) with a friend of mine in Vernon who deals in "real steel" firearms, paintball markers and air rifles have a unique double-recoil effect that can cause a great deal of damage to sensitive optics, especially under continuous automatic fire.

When the trigger is pulled, you have a heavy bolt that slams forward on a spring-loaded valve, which causes the marker to 'kick forward,' and then the 'kick back' occurs as the explosion of compressed gas simultaneously fires a paintball and throws the same bolt back onto the sear.

Older markers have heavier bolts and often use more gas, which accounted for a lot of broken sights during the 90's and early 00's until specialty optics for air rifles came onto the scene.

If you plan on rocking an RT or an E-Grip, it would be wise to remain aware of this behavior before purchasing a cheap sight.

As I've not yet purchased one, I don't know if I would trust a Chinese EOTech to be able to withstand this stress, plus the possibility of a direct impact. If you want a cheap sight, Holliwood has posted articles on how you can make a perfectly reliable, cheap sight that doesn't depend on batteries.
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Re: How are those fake EOTech sights?

While I do understand that paintballs are not bullets, I don't get how so many complain of gross inaccuracies.

When using my Bushnell 2X scope, my ghost ring sight and my iron sight, I get accuracy within a few inches(6" max) out to about 112'
Out to about 70' my shots impact within a couple inches of where the cross hairs say they should.
50' and under they are dead on. Pin point.

I use a Freak kit, hpa and DXS Scenario Blaze, Bronze or Frostbites.

If my optics didn't function as they should, I wouldn't bother spending the money on em or waist the energy to drag em around.

I don't get all the complaints.
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