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Old 07-31-2008, 04:01 AM
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X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

What is the longest range an X7 could ever set record? I'm thinking about rebuiding my X7 into a sniper rifle.
Paintball guns can't shoot straight line and I've been told it could reach longer more than 300ft. Can we make it shoot farther?
I have a BT4 Powertube and bolt, and waiting for a new 16" J&J barrel to arrive. WHen i first started playing paintball 3 weeks ago, I used CO2. I got rid of it last week and purchased a 68ci 3000 fiber HPA replacement tank. Improvement is obvious. I used MPI RPS premium paints.

What is the best paints would you recommend?
What else do I need?

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Old 07-31-2008, 04:08 AM
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

Sniper rifle mod's are purely asthetic. There is little you can physically do to the gun to increase distance and accuracy other than a good quality barrel and good paint which is a good fit to your barrels bore size. One shot, one kill mentalities are for noobs and wannabes. A good barrel and HPA are about as good as accuracy upgrades get. Perhaps a good reg might increase consistency, but power is limited to the velocity your fields limit you to (most likely 300fps) and how much your balls can take.
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:11 AM
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

You ain't gonna get no 300 feet bud. I hate to break it to you. A flatline is the lonest I heard anybody getting and its around 200 or so. But at that distance its hard for the ball to break. Use the search key and you'll find out all about barrels and distance and what makes them go farther and blah blah blah blah frickin blah! lol Longer barrel does not = longer distance .... just the opposite actually. Sorry for the bad news bro'.
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

Yeah, don't assume a 20" will make it shoot any further. If your gun has a firing pressure of X amount of pounds per square inch, it's gonna stay the same the entire way down the barrel. You might find that the additional time in the barrel will increase the amount of friction between the ball and the inside of the barrel and as the pressure decreases as the ball moves down the barrel, it will have a more noticable effect.

I'd say 10"-12" is ideal, with a max of 14". 16" is only good for aesthetic's, as it's not going to really negatively affect performance, but won't provide any benefits. 20" is plain ridiculous for anything other than a sniper look setup.

With the barrel length, what you need to consider accuracy wise, is the transfer of kinetic energy behind the ball, to the actual balls momentum. When you first fire your gun, the initial energy sits behind the ball, meaning the ball's center of gravity is the very back point of the paintball. This means even the slightest amount of energy moving to the side of the ball will cause it to veer sideways. However, when the ball's momentum matches the velocity of the shot, the center of gravity will be in the balls center, meaning that horizontal differences in force, have little effect. This is why we have barrels, as it keeps the ball flying straight while this transferance of energy takes place.

That's about as simply as I can explain the effect of a barrel on accuracy.
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

dang! just junk that sniper rifle idea. I'll stick with the same mod focusing on internal parts and performance.
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

I use a 14" J&J Edge barrel with an APEX tip and can fling paint a very long way.

The problem is that no matter if you use an APEX or Flatline the ball bleeds off speed as it reaches out.

Flinging paint great distances is useless when it bounces or is grab out of the air.

The max I would call one useful is maybe 200ft but you better have brittle paint and hit them in the goggles if you want it to break.


In Paintball a sniper is not one that reaches out with their shots. The Paintball sniper is the one that sneaks up and hits without being seen by others. The X7 makes a quiet shot hard though due to the "crack" sound from the blow back bolt system.
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

Thing is, is that you can make paint fly far, and with apex or flatline, even farther...

Using premium paint... which you count on to get to where it needs to go, to shoot more consistently so on and so forth...

But hard shell premium paint at max range, its doubtful that its going to break.

If you want to try being all one shot one kill, would say get your marker internals to where they're good enough not to break paint. Use blue ultrasoft paddles, and use a light shell paint that'll break on impact at max range on softer targets. Aside from those marker internals, and selecting paint that'll break... focus on things other than your marker. Put your money into buying proper camo for your location or field, and a scope or binoculars wouldn't be bad, to make sure your targets aren't wiping paint, and confirm your hits. You don't really need to look down scope to hit your target, but I've found when you're sitting there far away, shaking your head because you could swear you've hit the target 3 times by now, some means of long vision to confirm a hit must be a nice thing to have.

Anyway, yeah. No such thing as a sniper marker. Everyone shoots the same legal fps, can only try to pick paint that'll break max range, update camo to be able to keep unseen, and long shooting, something to confirm hits on your targets for when they're not calling out. Alls I can think of.
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

you could get a "FLATLINE AUTOCOKER" and use really brittle paint only deisigned for low pressure markers. And that will help reduce your breakage at long distances.

But no, there is no such thing as "sniper" in paintball.

One shot, one bounce.
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

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...One shot, one bounce.

I love it Buck!

But yeah, an APEX tip and brittle paint are your best bet. Try the Lapco 12" BigShot APEX ready barrel. It's a great barrel to start with, and with my APEX I'm engaging targets at double their effective range and getting eliminations!

Really though, a 'sniper' in paintball should be more of a stalker than a longballer. When our team used a sniper alot of our games against eachother would mean we would walk over him, get shot in the back from 15 feet away; and we still didn't know where he was! And that was with a 98 custom and a flatline that didn't have any grit left on the inside of the barrel, so it was effectively a curved barrel that liked to chew paint!
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Re: X7's longest distance ? sniper rifle project...

Dont let others sway your ideas. If you want ot make a "sniper" looking x7 go for it. I use a complete x36 kit with a rap4 22 inch barrel, and i couldnt be happier. A lot of people criticise me for such a barrel and company. But i love it. RAP4 barrels are good, most people just dont like them because they are .682 cal instead of larger. But like all players with aftermarker mods, you end up getting picky about paint anyways, so who cares what barrel you use. And a definition of a sniper is not nesicarilly someone who takes long accurate shots, a true sniper is one who makes accurate shots (distance doesnt matter) from a concealed location. I really wish people would get it out of there heads that snipers are just long range shooters.
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